THE GOD VERSUS SCIENCE ARGUMENT
"You say you are a Christian so I assume you believe in God?"
"Yes, I am and yes, I do believe in God.”
"Okay, let’s explore
the problem science has with religion. Is God good?"
"Sure! God is good."
"And is God all-powerful and can do anything?"
"Yes, of course."
"Is God good or evil? Better yet, if you believe you are created of God, are you good or evil?"
"I believe I am a good person; I try to be, but the Bible says I'm a sinner. I guess that could be construed as evil."
"Let's say there's a sick person here right now that you can cure; would you?"
"Of course, I would."
"Because you’re a good person, at least you would try?"
"You'd help a sick or injured person if you could. Most of us probably would I guess. But God doesn't."
“What’s your point?”
”My brother was a Christian. He died of cancer even though he prayed to Jesus to heal him. So is Jesus evil and is Satan good?”
“I’m not sure I believe in a Satan or the Devil.”
“Ah, but the greatest trick the Devil ever played, we are told, is convincing the world he doesn’t exist.”
"Okay, if there is a Satan, then he or it is evil."
"Where does Satan come from?"
"Many teachings say from God. Some say Satan is a fallen angle."
"For the sake of this discussion let’s accept that God made Satan and he is evil and that God also made the world. Is there evil in the world?"
"Yes, it’s all around us. We see it everywhere everyday."
“So, if God created
everything and some of it is evil, God must also be evil."
"I don’t think I know why there is sickness, immorality, hatred, ugliness and all those things, but yes, they do exist and they do seem evil to me.”
“Let’s get back to Jesus.
Do you believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God?"
"Yes, I do!"
"Science tells us we
have five senses that we use to identify the world around us. Have you ever
seen Jesus or God for that matter?"
"No, I've never seen Jesus or God."
"Have you ever heard, touched, tasted, smelled Jesus or God?"
"No, I have not."
"Yet you believe that Jesus lived and God exists?"
"But according to the rules of test and demonstration, empirical science would say that your God doesn't exist."
"I only have my faith and it tells me that I believe."
"Ah yes, faith. We
also have no evidence that it exists either."
"Let me ask you a question.”
" Yes, go ahead."
“Is there such a thing as
"Yes, of course there is. I can feel it."
"Maybe not. There is heat. There is more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, less heat and low heat, but there is no such thing as cold.”
“What do you base this claim on?”
“Science. Science tells
us that temperatures can only go to -458 degrees below zero or very little
heat. Therefore, there is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we
use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold in thermal units
like we can heat energy, so you see cold is not the opposite of heat, but only
the absence of heat."
“Good point, do go on.”
"What about darkness; is there such a thing as darkness?"
"Yes, what is night if it isn't darkness?"
"You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light, but if you have no light, you have nothing. Darkness is not something; it is simply the absence of something. We just call the absence of measurable light, darkness. If darkness were something, we could make it darker.”
”You asked me earlier what my point was, what’s yours?”
"My point is that your premise about God is flawed, and so it follows that your conclusion must also be flawed."
"Flawed? Please explain."
"You are working from a premise of duality. You argue that a good God must also be a bad God. Your view is that God is something finite, something we can measure. God is infinite. Science can't explain thought or love or even life, but we know or at least we believe they exist. Take death for example; is it the opposite of life?”
“By your reasoning, I guess you’re going to say that death is not the opposite of life, but the absence of life.”
”Now you’re catching on. Do you believe that man evolved from a monkey or some lower form of being?"
"If you are referring to natural selection in the evolutionary process, yes."
"Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes?"
”Of course not.”
"Since you or no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work, how can you prove or even believe it goes on.”
“It’s my opinion.”
“Then you’re some kind of
blind follower of the Evolutionary Faith?"
"The evidence we have points to evolution and it seems logical. Thus, I believe it to be correct, but you’re going to say my belief is only faith."
"Yes, that’s what I’m saying. So if we both accept that faith exists, is there such a thing as the existence of evil?"
"As you said before, we see it everyday all around
us, a multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These are
manifestations of evil, aren’t they?"
"No, I’m afraid evil does not exist. Evil is simply the absence of good. God did not create evil; evil is the result of a distance from God. It is like the darkness and the cold; it is a word we use to describe God’s absence.
The above argument is sometimes attributed to Albert Einstein and a book he did not write titled “God vs. Science” in 1921. Einstein did publish a paper entitled “Science and Religion” in 1940. However, for the most part, the prime author of the God verse science argument is unknown.
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